2310 October 26 HPC
102 West Main Street \ Prattville, AL 36067 \ 334. 595.0500 \ prattvilleal.gov
BILL GILLESPIE, JR.
MAYOR
J. SCOTT STEPHENS, AICP DIRECTOR
CITY OF PRATTVILLE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AGENDA October 26, 2023 4:30 p.m. Call to Order: Roll Call: Chairman Miller, Vice-Chairman Stewart, Mrs. Davis, Mr. Ferguson, Ms. Fritz, Ms. Rollins, and Mr. Sanford.
Minutes: September 28, 2023
Committee Reports:
Old Business: None
New Business: 1. COA2310-01 Certificate of Appropriateness Alterations-Windows 127 W 5th Street Ward Chapel Church, Petitioner
Public Hearing
2. COA2310-02 Certificate of Appropriateness Sign 132 W 3rd Street Benjamin Hill, Petitioner
Public Hearing
Miscellaneous: 3. Discussion/Consideration of rescinding/amending something previously adopted; Alterations-Lime Wash Bricks and Fence Addition at 108 Oak Creek Circle (9/28/2023) 4. Survey Report, Landmarks Foundation 5. Discussion of November/December Meeting Dates; Possible Reschedule Expedited Approvals:
Adjourn:
Approved 12/14/2023
Prattville Historic Preservation Commission October 26, 2023 Minutes Page 1 of 2
CITY OF PRATTVILLE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES October 26, 2023 Call to order: The Chairman called the special meeting of the Prattville Historic Preservation Commission to order on Thursday, October 26, 2023, at 4:30 p.m. Roll Call: The secretary called the roll. Chairman Tom Miller, Vice-Chair Taylor Stewart, Mrs. Jean Davis, Mr. Scott Ferguson, Ms. Precious Fritz, Ms. Kristi Rollins, and Mr. Tim Sanford were present.
Quorum present
Also present were Mr. Scott Stephens, City Planner; Mr. Joshua McKinney, Planner; Ms. Bria Hudson, Planner; and Ms. Alisa Morgan, Secretary. Minutes: Mr. Sanford moved to approve the minutes of the September 28, 2023 regular meeting. Ms. Stewart seconded the motion. The motion to approve passed unanimously. Committee Reports: There were no reports to be made. Old Business: There was no old business to discuss. New Business: Certificate of Appropriateness Alterations-Windows & Door 127 W 5th Street Ward Chapel Church, Petitioner Mr. McKinney provided the staff report for the Certificate of Appropriateness to replace windows and a door to the
structure located at 127 W. 5th Street. He stated that the windows and the door have been replaced prior to COA approval. The previous windows had a 4/4 grid and were replaced with a 2/2 window grid. Jamye Morris of Morris Builders, and Ananias Perry of Ward Chapel Church, petitioner’s representatives, presented the request for the Certificate of Appropriateness to replace windows and a door to the structure located at 127 W 5th Street. He stated that the old windows and door were dilapidated and nonfunctioning and have been replaced with windows and door that are up to code. He stated that a building permit was obtained prior to work being started. Mr. Stephens clarified that the building permit was approved for interior work only. Chairman Miller opened the floor for public comments. Gerald Cimis, 141 N. Chestnut Street, offered information on cost effective repairs and stated that rental use is better than a vacant, dilapidated structure. After no further
comments, the public hearing was closed. Mrs. Davis moved to separate the items for individual discussion. Mr. Sanford seconded the motion. The motion
to separate the items passed. Item #1: Windows
In their discussion, the Commission addressed that the windows are considered by the guidelines as a case by case basis. Although contemporary material is discouraged they want to prevent demolition by abandonment.
Approved 12/14/2023
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Mr. Ferguson moved to approve the vinyl windows contingent with simulated divided 4/4 grid. Mr. Sanford seconded the motion. The motion to approved passed by 6/1 vote as recorded. Mr. Ferguson, Mr. Sanford, Mrs. Fritz, Ms. Rollins, Mrs. Davis, and Chairman Miller. Oppose: Ms. Stewart. Item #2: Door (front) In their discussion, the Commission addressed that the replaced door does not meet the guidelines. Mr. Sanford moved to deny. Mr. Ferguson seconded the motion Mr. Sanford withdrew his motion. Mr. Ferguson seconded. Ms. Rollins moved to approve the door for a like for like 4-pane glass wood door. Mr. Sanford seconded the motion. The motion to approve passed unanimously. Certificate of Appropriateness Sign 132 W 3rd Street
Benjamin Hill, Petitioner
Ms. Hudson introduced the Certificate of Appropriateness request for an aluminum sign proposed for property located at 132 W. 3rd Street. Benjamin Hill, petitioner, presented the request for the Certificate of Appropriateness to place a sign on property located at 132 W 3rd Street. Chairman Miller opened the floor for public comments. There were none. The public hearing was closed. Ms. Stewart moved to approve the request as presented contingent that the sign is mounted in the mortar. Ms. Rollins seconded the motion. The motion to approved passed unanimously.
Miscellaneous: Discussion/Consideration of rescinding/amending the previously adopted COA for Alterations-Lime Wash
Bricks and Fence Addition at 108 Oak Creek Circle (9/28/2023) In their discussion, the Commission concluded that because the initial request was rather ambiguous, it will not revisit this case.
Collier Neely and Taylor Stewart of Landmarks Foundation presented the Survey Report for the historic district. Report made a part of the minutes.
Ms. Rollins left at 5:44 p.m. Ms. Stewart resumed her seat after the presentation. Discussion of November/December Meeting Dates; Possible Reschedule The Commission voted to reschedule and combine the November and December regular meeting to December 14, 2023 at 4:30 p.m. Expedited Review-none. Adjourn: With no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 6:02 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Alisa Morgan, Secretary Historic Preservation Commission
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Historic Preservation Commission
Staff Report
CERTIFICATE OF
APPROPRIATENESS
COA2310-01: 127 W 5th St
MEETING DATE October 26, 2023
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
Petitioner: Morris Builders
Property Owner: Ward Chapel AME Church
Location: 127 W 5th St
Review Status and History
Previous Approvals: N/A
Historic Properties
Inventory/Survey Details
125 West Fifth Street, Faulk House
a) 1984: “c. 1930; one story, frame with asbestos-shingle
siding, bungalow type with broad frontal gable from which
secondary gable is telescoped over brick-pier and post
porch.”
b) 2007: c. 1930, contributing. “This bungalow is a one-story
frame building with asbestos-shingle siding and a broad
frontal gable. A brick-pier and post porch is covered by a
secondary gable.”
c) 2023: c. 1930, non-contributing. This one-story frame
bungalow with broad front gable is now clad in vinyl siding.
The brick-pier and post porch is still extant and is covered
by a secondary gable that is now also clad in vinyl with a
circular gable vent in the apex of the gable.
Proposed Alteration, Renovation, or Addition
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The following alterations have been requested by the applicant:
1. Installation of New Windows 2. Installation of New Door (Not included in application)
STAFF EVALUATION:
Reviewed by: Joshua McKinney, Planner
Recommendation: Deny. Existing windows and doors should have been
retained, maintained, or repaired before attempting to
replace. Replacement windows and doors are not of a
compatible style, configuration, or material of previous
windows.
Evaluation:
1. Installation of New Windows
Alterations and Rehabilitations of Existing Structures (Windows Guidelines, Pg. 30):
Alterations and rehabilitation of existing buildings in the Prattville Historic District shall follow the best practices as established by the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards for Rehabilitation of Historic Structures (found within
the appendix). The overall goal of alterations to historic structures within the district is to enhance or preserve the integrity and character of the district. Alterations detracting from the integrity and character of the district are grounds for denial of a COA.
Windows (p30) 1. Historic windows and their frames shall be retained and maintained. 2. Damaged or deteriorated windows shall be repaired before they are replaced.
3. Historic window openings shall remain visible and shall not be obscured from view through paint, wood, or other materials and methods which may alter their transparency or appearance. 4. Stained glass and other decorative window elements shall be retained and maintained. Do not introduce
these decorative window elements where there is no historical basis for them. 5. New and replacement windows shall be of a compatible style, configuration, and material of the historic windows found on the structure.
a. Contemporary materials such as vinyl and other high gloss materials are generally discouraged. b. Reflective glass windows are generally discouraged.
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c. When replacement windows of the same original material cannot be found, the replacement window shall be of a compatible size, type, configuration, material, appearance and form as the original
windows. d. Replacement windows shall match the appearance of the original window to the greatest extent possible. If the structure has no distinctive style, then window configuration and style shall be of a
simple, compatible style with surrounding structures. e. Replacement windows shall make use of the existing window frame, it shall not be appropriate to remove the historic framing of window openings. f. For replacement windows on tertiary building faces that are not easily visible from the right of way, materials such as vinyl and reflective glass may be considered on a case-by-case basis. 6. The addition of window openings to tertiary faces may be considered on a case-by-case basis if they do not damage or detract from the integrity of the structure.
2. Installation of New Door
Entrances and Doors (p33) 1. Historic doors and entryways shall be retained and maintained. 2. Features such as transoms, sidelights, and molding are defining features of entrances and shall be retained and maintained. 3. Replacement doors and entryway features shall replicate the original features as much as possible in
appearance and design. 4. Openings and entrances that were not historically present shall not be added to existing structures. 5. An entrance or doorway may be added to an existing historic structure if there is evidence of an entrance
or doorway existing there historically. a. When an entrance or doorway is to be added, it shall be of a compatible material and design to the structure’s historic architectural style. If the structure has no distinctive style, then a style compatible
with the district’s character shall be used. b. New exterior entries to tertiary building faces or to non-historic structures may be appropriate and shall be considered on a case-by-case basis. 6. Wood is the most appropriate material for replacement doors. a. Materials such as aluminum and metal shall not be permitted unless there is evidence of the material historically being used on the structure. b. Other materials may be considered on a case-by-case basis if the entry door is not visible from the right of way and if it does not detract from the integrity of the historic structure. 7. Screen and storm doors shall be compatible with the style of the structure, have a wood frame, and not block visibility of historic doors and entryways. 8. Security doors shall not be added to primary and secondary building faces.
Evaluation: Applicant began replacing existing windows and door prior to receiving a certification of appropriateness.
Former windows were four-over-four. Former door was wood with four vertical windows. Newly replaced
windows are a different size and one-over-one, and new door is solid non-wood.
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Previous Windows
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Previous Door
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New Windows
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New Door
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Location Map
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Historic Preservation Commission
Staff Report
CERTIFICATE OF
APPROPRIATENESS
2310-02: 132 W 3rd Street
DATE October 26, 2023
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
Petitioner: Ben Hill
Property Owner: Ben Hill
Location: 132 W 3rd Street
Review Status and History
Previous Approvals: N/A
Historic Properties
Inventory/Survey Details
N/A
Proposed Alteration, Renovation or Addition
The following alterations have been requested by the applicant.
1. Installation of sign
PLANNING STAFF EVALUATION:
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Reviewed by: Bria Hudson, Planner
Site Visits Conducted: October 2023
Recommendation: Approve. Sign meets guidelines.
Evaluation:
1. Installation of sign.
SIGNAGE (p59) Historic commercial buildings typically included multiple sign types for a single business including
signs located above the storefront on the façade, projecting wall signs, and window signs. Multi-story structures also commonly had signs painted onto the exterior of the building towards the cap. Today, these are often “ghost” signs, which have gained historical significance as they have faded over time. New signs should not be painted directly onto the exterior of historic buildings, but ghost signs should be preserved and repaired if needed.
Historic Commercial Buildings 1. Historic signs shall be retained and maintained.
2. Historic “ghost” signs on the exterior cladding of commercial structures shall be retained and maintained. Ghost signs can be repainted to their original appearance, though adding new painted signs onto the sides of unpainted historic structures shall be prohibited. 3. Construct new signs with materials that mirror the appearance of historic sign materials such as
wood, copper, or bronze. Vinyl signs are prohibited. 4. New signs shall be installed in locations historically used for signs such as awnings, above storefronts in the façade, storefront windows, and projecting wall signs on the façade. New signs shall not damage or obscure any architectural features of the main structure.
5. Signs anchored onto the building shall make use of existing fixtures; when new fixtures need to be added, mount them into mortar and other parts of the exterior so the sign does not damage or destroy the exterior of the main structure.
6. New signs shall be proportioned appropriately to their storefront. 7. Where ample ambient lighting is present, external signage shall not introduce new lighting fixtures. 8. Signs with lighting shall be externally lit, concealed, and shielded to avoid “spilling” over to
adjacent storefronts, lots, and into pedestrian pathways. 9. Neon signage can be used when it is compatible with the architectural style of the existing structure. For example, neon lighting was utilized on modern movement commercial structures from about 1920 to 1960.
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10. Any lighting equipment such as breaker boxes, wires, and outlets shall be obscured from view or concealed.
Staff Evaluation: The applicant is requesting to install a sign on front face of the current structure at
132 W 3rd Street. The guidelines state that new signs shall be installed in locations historically used
for signs such as projecting wall signs on the façade. New signs shall not damage or obscure any
architectural features of the main structure. Please note that the proposed sign will be aluminum
painted sign with brackets. The sign will be approximately 4.9 sq ft, which meets the requirements of
the historic district guidelines and zoning ordinance. This is a non-contributing structure.
Current Façade:
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Certificate of Appropriateness Application City of Prattville, Planning & Development Department 102 W Main Street Prattville, AL 36067 (334) 595-0500 / planning@prattvilleal.gov
Address or Location of Property: ______________________________________________________________________________
Name of Applicant(s): _________________________________________ Phone: __________________________________
Address: ____________________________________________________ Email: __________________________________
Name of Owner(s): ____________________________________________ Phone: __________________________________
Address: ____________________________________________________ Email: __________________________________
The applicant will be the point of contact for all communication with city staff
Describe clearly and in detail the proposed work:
*Attached additional pages if more space is needed.
All items must be initialed as included or understood or “N/A” if not applicable:
_____ Proof of ownership and executed Designation of Agent form if applicant is not owner
_____ Scaled site layout including all existing structures, fences, walkways, driveways, signs, lighting, etc.
_____ Scaled drawings, including elevations showing the proposed changes to the building’s exterior architectural features
_____ Samples of proposed materials to be used (photographs may be substituted for actual materials in some cases – consult staff)
_____ Photographs of the existing structure taken from several views of the structure and site
_____ If demolition, complete additional HPC CoA Demolition Supplement
_____ Any additional materials or documentation that will assist the Historic Preservation Commission in the review (inadequate
information, explanations, samples, drawings, photographs, etc, may result in a postponement of the Commission’s decision or a denial of
your request)
_____ Application Fee
_____ I agree to allow the City to place a sign or signs on this property notifying the public of this request
_____ I understand that a Certificate of Appropriateness issued by the HPC is NOT a building permit nor authorization to begin work.
Building permits must be obtained from the Building Department
_____ Applicant or authorized representative of the applicant must attend the public hearing to support the application
*Deadline to apply for next meeting: ______ / ______ / ______ *Date of next available meeting: ______ / ______ / ______
**Each application will be considered on its own merit. While the Historic Preservation Commission may consider past actions when
making decisions on a CoA, it is not held by those decisions when considering new applications that may appear similar in character.
I have read the above statements and warrant in good faith that I understand and will comply, and that the information
submitted is true and correct. I acknowledge that submitting incorrect or incomplete information that results in delays
is the sole responsibility of the applicant.
Applicant Signature: ________________________________________________________ Date: ______ / ______ / 20_______
STATE OF ALABAMA COUNTY OF _____________________________
I, _________________________________________________, a Notary Public in and for said State at Large, hereby certify that _________________
_______________________________________________, whose name is signed to the foregoing document, and
______ Who is known to me, or ______ Whose identity I proved on the basis of Driver’s license / passport / military ID / other
and that being informed of the contents of the document, he/she, as such officer and with full authority, executed the same voluntarily on the day the
same bears date. Given under my hand and official seal this the _________ day of _______________________________, 20______.
_____________________________________________, Notary Public My Commission Expires: __________________________
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Is this property in a Special Flood Hazard Area?* *approximately 40% of the Prattville Historic District is in a Special Flood Hazard Area (floodplain). For more information, please contact the Planning Department
132 W 3rd Street Prattville, AL 36067
Ben Hill 2512538146
445 Ashton Park Millbrook, AL ben.hill@pure4dultrasound.com
Ben Hill 2512538146
445 Ashton Park Millbrook, AL
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I want to install a round blade sign displaying my business's name (30" in diameter" on the front of
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